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Dirkimops
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Mon Nov 1, 2004 12:10 am Post subject: Total ranking |
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Just thought, that it might be cool to have an additional ranking which combines the results of all level sets - a total ranking, as it were. This would show the read BD4 champion. (Well, who might be that?)
It shouldn't be just a summation of ranking points because Homelands is the most important level set, which is played most and which should therefore count most. For example each level set could be weighed with a factor like logarithm(number of games played) or something like that. So each level set would gain importance the more it is played.
Just a proposal. But I think it would be a nice feature.
Dirk |
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DREAM
Single Player dream68gmail.com
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Wed Nov 3, 2004 2:19 am Post subject: Sounds like a great idea Dirkimops |
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Although Asarkila would be number one i bet Wil number two, i may scrape in for third, not sure there haven't played on the main levelsets for a while.
But would you include all level sets, thats levelsets 5 and 6 as well as the others. I mean it would be the overall BD4 champion we are looking for am i right.
The ranking table could be linked to the home page rather than going to homelands.
You got my thumbs up.....hehe. |
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Dirkimops
Single Player dirkimopsgmx.de
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Wed Nov 3, 2004 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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Hi DREAM,
yes, the total rankings would reveal the overall BD4 champion to us, you're right. I would include every levelset which you don't have to download seperately and which got a name like Homelands, Farmlands etc. I don't know much about levelsets 5 and 6 as I haven't played them very much til now, but as they are not included in the EXE-File I suppose many BD4 players don't even know of their existance. On the other hand the weight factor would be low as they haven't been played often. Well, let's give the decision to Wil (if he likes the idea of the ranking).
Dirk |
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asarkila
Single Player ari.sarkilahtigmail.com
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Sat Nov 6, 2004 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds lika a great idea ... |
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Wil
Single Player wilamristar.com.au
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Thu Dec 16, 2004 3:34 am Post subject: |
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Okay... I've given in. Here it is. Jungle level progression would seem fairly important now. |
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asarkila
Single Player ari.sarkilahtigmail.com
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Thu Dec 16, 2004 8:10 am Post subject: |
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Cool, being no. 2 seems to be my destiny |
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Dirkimops
Single Player dirkimopsgmx.de
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Thu Dec 16, 2004 8:52 am Post subject: |
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Excellent work! That's exactly what I proposed. It gets harder and harder to find any new propositions.
Asarkila, it seems you have to work a bit on Jungle and Fruity. |
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asarkila
Single Player ari.sarkilahtigmail.com
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Fri Dec 17, 2004 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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I have a new proposition. bd4 server where two players can play teamwork levels even if they are from different sides of the globe. That would be great and I'm sure it would be very easy to implement I would love the teamwork experience but unfortunately it has not been possible so far. |
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Thozz
Single Player thoz.jaynebigpond.com
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Sat Dec 18, 2004 9:45 am Post subject: Web based Team play over the net |
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Hey Asarkila, I'll volunteer to be your teammate. That way I might learn some tricks! Thozz |
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asarkila
Single Player ari.sarkilahtigmail.com
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Sat Dec 18, 2004 10:47 am Post subject: |
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Quote (Thozz): | Hey Asarkila, I'll volunteer to be your teammate. That way I might learn some tricks! Thozz |
OK, now let's just wait a couple of hours as Wil codes the server |
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shockedfrog
Single Player shockedfrogshockedfrog.com
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Sat Dec 18, 2004 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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The game relies too much on perfect timing for online play to be possible, I think. If it's played clientside like it is right now, the two players would go out of sync, which could possibly make some levels near impossible to play, or make some levels easier than they're supposed to be, thus totally messing up the highscores. If it's run serverside, then a player's movements would be at risk of not registering properly, meaning lots of deaths caused by a bad connection, or a player would not receive the newest version of the game field at the right time, meaning they could walk into a perfectly safe spot and be killed by a badger that is there according to the server, but is still a few tiles away according to the client. |
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asarkila
Single Player ari.sarkilahtigmail.com
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Sun Dec 19, 2004 9:47 am Post subject: |
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I know it's impossible but you never know with Wil |
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Wil
Single Player wilamristar.com.au
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Mon Dec 20, 2004 2:24 am Post subject: |
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I did this in 1997 (first year of release). It was quite a design to get it right (in terms of assuming a connectionless / unreliable network and making sure both client and server stayed completely in sync). It worked fine, although you needed to "commit" your move about 40ms earlier than the current version ... so you got used to doing things a tad earlier. I thing I've lost the design and code. It was great locally but relied on a latency less than 40-80ms (can't remember which one) which is unrealistic (possible impossible) between continents.
I'll keep it in mind but you'd need fast low latency links - should be doable given network constraints in Europe? |
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Wil
Single Player wilamristar.com.au
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Mon Jan 17, 2005 4:36 am Post subject: |
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Changed so that Jungle is not weighted heavier. Sure there's a disadvantage if you're up to level 52 that you can't get more points on this but there's only one player up to this level (that's me). If that player deems this a disadvantage they could always invest the time in creating levels 52-80! In the mean time players will still be greatly rewarded by getting through levels of Jungle (possibly the best way to improve a players combined ranking). |
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asarkila
Single Player ari.sarkilahtigmail.com
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Wil
Single Player wilamristar.com.au
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Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:40 am Post subject: |
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If you really analyse it I'm only ahead because of Jungle and Fruity (and a little Mountains completion). Jungle's a big one since the levels are hard and progression is the key to a big score. I went really hard on Fruity trying to get all the number ones and expect to stay clearly number one for a while since the high scores are pretty good. Mountains is where you can pick up on me (your style of levels?). But, you're right I haven't played that much... but only on Reef and Mountains and I have played several levels thoroughly.
I'm still "addicted" to getting through level 80 Reef. Once I have I'm sure Mountains will fall easier.
It will get interesting when you get through the next Jungle level (the new few are midly easier I think?) |
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